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Date: Mar 30, 2008, 02:33:03
Category: Design -> Miscellaneous
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Ygdrassil again

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Be amazed: this might just be the final design!!

For those of you who are completely lost at this point, I've been trying to design a tattoo for my mother for... ooh, almost a year, now. You can see a few substandard sketches in my Scraps. I haven't done many sketches, because I've been letting ideas ferment in my brain, rather than letting them out on paper. Remind me not to design anything that way, ever again - it doesn't work out. *Pulls a face*

Anyway, after searching through lots of Nordic and Germanic ornamental art, and even flipping through a book of Art Noveau... I decided (and mum agreed) that a stylised design was the way to go. Mum's a fan of very simple, elegant design - which I actually find harder to do, because you've got to capture the "essence" of your subject with a lot less lines than in realism.

Some of the "unspoken" parts of this design -
- the circle represents unity; the whole mother-daughter-family thing (something I wanted to put into the tattoo from the very start, which was originally to mark mum's 50th birthday).
- the circle is also representative of the serpent Nidhogg in the original world-tree myth: with his tail held in his mouth, he supposedly encircles the entire world. So there are themes of "protection" in there too, on some level.
- Both the circle and spiral represent femininity, and are *very* old symbols. Mum has a soft spot for the old idea of "Earth Mother", and the power of female sexuality(think the Venus of Willendorf - very primal, very powerful. ).
- There are one or two heart-shapes hidden among the branches... I imagine their meaning's fairly obvious.
- And lastly, at mum's request - the design is assymetrical. "Because life is like that".

I'm quite pleased with this design... though I'm going to let it sit for a while just to be *certain*.

Anyway, my main question to anyone reading this, is: does anything in this scream "NOOOO, I won't work as a tattoo"? I took into account the fact that ink will blur over time, and I think this design should still work OK. But I've no experience with the process of tattooing, so some input would be really helpful so that I can be sure this thing looks good *long-term*.
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It looks like a tattoo.
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Well, that's reassuring...
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What does your mum have to say?
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She seems to like it. But I'm going to make damn sure she likes it before she gets it inked - make her carry the piece of paper around with her for a few weeks, see what the design's like to live with.
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Absolutely. Permanent proof of temporary insanity demands total comfort with the design.
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That's very pretty! I think it'd be better without the circle, despite its symbolism. Though perhaps you could use a double circle? Or, at least, a perfect circle, instead of the slightly wobbly one you have.

Other than that...I really do love the design.
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That's just my own faulty skills with pen and ink. Still, I'll be checking with the tattoo artist that they are confident with inking a perfect circle, even if I'm not.

Thanks, Cami.
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This looks really nice and plain and simple and even if over time the ink fades or bleeds the design should still stay intact.
I do like [valys]' idea of a double circle, but on the other hand I know that a perfect circle will be more or less impossible to tattoo.
Your mon's gonna have a cool design
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I talked to a friend who has had a tattoo of his own, and one that involved a perfect circle as part of the design. He assures me it can be done, with a compass and transfer paper... I'll see what the artist says.
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OK, so it is possible to actually tattoo, but you also have to take into consideration the, erm, elasticity of the skin over time
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Ah. Hmm. Hadn't thought of that...
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Or your mom just has to stay fit
Exercise daily, even when she's 85
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Lifting weights, doing benchpresses.
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Squats, crunches and of course run a 1/4 marathon every day
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Before sitting down to a breakfast of cornflake.

(Nope, no plural.)
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*LOL* Your poor mom
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It's beautiful and feminine but also cute.

I think if it will look good or not depends on where she wants to have it and how big it should be. I think if it gets bigger than 6-7cm in diameter it won't look good no matter where it is. I also think it would look good on the back just above the pants or skirts. But that of course is her decision.

Anyhow... The design is brilliant and the facts that it's such a personal design for her is just great. I'm thinking that if I were to get a tattoo it would have to be one of a kind. I suggest that you don't leave the design at the tattoo shop after it's done, because that might lead to other people seeing it and deciding that they want it as well and then it wouldn't be just as personal to your mum anymore. I heard about people doing just that and ended up having to change the tattoo because to many people had gotten the exact same one.
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She's planning to get it tattooed on her shoulder, and not very large... so I think it ought to work (it was only ever going to be a small one, you see. ).

Ah, good advice - I hadn't thought of that. I doubt it's a design that many other people would choose, but I'll make sure I leave the shop with my original! It'd be a horrible shock to see a stranger walk by with "your" tattoo... it's one reason I am always puzzled by the idea of tattoo "flash" - the pictures they post on the walls that customers can choose from. Why would anyone want to choose a tattoo design as "mass produced" as that??
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Yes exactly! Most people get tattoos so they can stand out more. Knowing that you%u2019re design is out there so others can use it too kind of ruins it.
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I think this would look great as a tattoo. With or without the circle.
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Thankyou, Epoch...
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It has a very William Morris look to it.
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It's a lot messier than anything he ever penned, but thankyou all the same!
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It would work nicely as a tattoo. Fading won't be to big of a problem either, with a design as simple as this, reshading won't be a challenge.

I'm a fan of anything Norse, so I may be biased, but its beautiful, in its art and meaning.
And as far as I could see, I only saw one heart.

I did rather like the idea of a double circle...but truthfully I would fancy the circle you drew even better, not a perfect circle, but a slightly wobbly one, it flows better with the tree.

Heh, I'll be going to you to design my tattoos now!
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That was basically it, yes - mum didn't want anything too complicated or "high maintenance". I ought to mention re-inking/re-shading to her, though... I'm not sure she knows about it.

Ah, the hearts are there, but not really *solidly*. Just hinted at, with vague shapes.

Hey, if you want something designed, tell me the details and I'll give it a go.
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It might not need to get reshaded that often, if ever really, but still something to mention.
So, since it has been a while, whats the update? she hasn't turned against the idea has she?

"Hey, if you want something designed, tell me the details and I'll give it a go."
I'll keep that in mind...hope your up to a challenge though
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She hasn't turned against the idea, no... but she still hasn't done anything about it. I need to start nagging her, obviously! She rang the tattoo artist to chat about how the tattoo's done, but hasn't arranged time to meet him/her in person, yet.

Up to a challenge? Bring it on, DM!
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